Poker zbanowany w USA

[Majcher]

Kolego Majcher, nowicjuszem zdaje się nie jesteś a więc pytanie jest krótkie - po co trzymasz większość pieniędzy w pokerowni? Np. ja gram 4 stoliki i zostawiam sobie 6-8BI "na rozruch" i wypłacam kasę z pokerowni 2-3 razy w miesiącu. Po czym za pomocą karty Netellera wydaję je na różne fajne rzeczy.

Jak sie gringuje tylko na swoich stalych stawkach gdzie sie czuje pewnie i nie ma sie w planach pojscia w gore,to mozna i miec system taki jak ty,zreszta sam to kiedys uskutecznialem,ale jesli chce sie isc do gory na stawkach,to trzeba miec w momencie pierwszych szotow pelen komfort psychinczy,czyli miec mocno restrekcyjny roll bedacy w cashierze(a nie gdzies tam),po to,aby widziec w danej chwili ze mozliwy zjazd na wyzszych stawkach bardzo nas nie uszczupla i grac dalej swoje.Przynajmniej u mnie tak to dziala i mysle ze nie tyko u mnie

[PaSiEk]

jdx bez obrazy ale okazalo sie kto tu jest "krzaczorem" , ftp,ps,ub myslalo ze beda grac na nosie lamiac przepisy US do konca swiata - kubeł zimnej wody spłynal na nich i od razu zbanowali ich, a nie mozna bylo tak od razu jak wszystkie inne roomy?...
PS jak tam twoja wyplata? cos za spokojny jestes, przeciez "nie lubisz czekac na swoje fundusze i powinny byc max do godziny" ...
Bez odbioru;-/

[PaSiEk]

nie da sie wyplacac tu jest pies pogrzebany, ale OCZYWISCIE ZE TAK do czasu wyjasnienia lepiej trzymac tam absolutne minimum.
PS Ciekawe czy zlikwiduja pule w sundayach, jesli nie to zapowiada sie złota niedziela

[Karlos83]

Hehe wp Pasiek, krzaczory gora ?

[jdx]

PS jak tam twoja wyplata? cos za spokojny jestes, przeciez "nie lubisz czekac na swoje fundusze i powinny byc max do godziny" ...

No 48h jeszcze nie minęło. A te 48h jest IMO właśnie po to, aby pokerownia mogła się zabezpieczyć m.in. przed takimi wypadkami a nie zawsze przeciągać wypłacanie kasy bez sensownego uzasadnienia jak to robią krzaczory.

[zone]

No właśnie ciekawe co z turniejami jak SM, możliwe, że w ta niedziele pule jeszcze pozostawią, ale pewnie przyszłotygodniowe turnieje będą miały już okrojoną pulę lub zorganizowane masę satelit.

[PeriMCS]

Właśnie się o tym dowiedziałem. I nie widzę o tym wątku na forum.

As many of you may well be aware Black Friday 15th of April 2011, will be marked down as the end of unregulated online poker in America, however it will not end online poker as we know it!

The U.S. Department of Justice has charged the founders of online poker sites PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker/Ultimate Bet with fraud and conspiracy in an indictment unsealed Friday morning.

A total of five domain names, including UB.com, PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, have been seized by the DOJ. Restraining orders were also issued for 75 bank accounts used by the poker sites and payment processors.

The indictment alleges that the poker companies worked with payment processors to fool U.S. banks into processing payments to and from players. All 11 defendants have been charged with Conspiracy to Violate Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act which has a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of $250,000 or twice the gross amount won or lost and three years supervised release.

The founders of the three poker sites have been charged with Violation of Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act , which carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 or twice the gross amount won or lost and three years supervised release, and Operation of Illegal Gambling Business, which also carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000 or twice the gross amount won or lost and three years supervised release plus the forfeiture of proceeds of offense.

The other charges are Conspiracy to Commit Bank Fraud and Wire Fraud and Money Laundering Conspiracy.

The DOJ is seeking $3 billion in penalties from the companies.
PokerStars has since prevented U.S. based players from accessing any cash games or tournaments on their site.

Wchodził ktoś na strony stars, full tilt, ub, absolute. Albo się nie otwierają, albo mają ładne nowe logo

Jak tam teraz ruch wygląda?

[Pitshot]

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[Tscher]

To jest ciekawe - z CNN.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The founders of the three largest Internet poker companies have been indicted for bank fraud and money laundering, federal law enforcement officials said Friday.

The United States Attorney in New York unsealed the indictment against eleven people, including the founders of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker. In addition to charges of bank fraud and money laundering, the companies are accused of illegal gambling offenses.

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The sweeping 52-page indictment alleges that the companies, based offshore, used "fraudulent methods" to get around U.S. anti-gambling laws "and to receive billions of dollars from U.S. residents who gambled through the Poker Companies."

The authorities also issued restraining orders against more than 75 bank accounts, and seized five Internet domain names used by the companies to host their illegal poker games.

The companies allegedly arranged for the money from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants for the purchase of items such as jewelry and golf balls, according to the indictment.

The defendants include Isai Scheinberg and Paul Tate of Poker Stars; Raymond Bitar and Nelson Burtnick of Full Tilt Poker; and Scott Tom and Brent Beckley of Absolute Poker.

"As charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits," U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement.

Prosecutors also filed civil charges against the poker companies and several individual "payment processors," seeking at least $3 billion in penalties.

Prosecutors also alleged that John Campos, a part owner of SunFirst Bank in Utah, agreed to process Internet gambling transactions in exchange for a $10 million investment in his bank by one of the other defendants.

Prosecutors said they are working with Interpol and foreign agencies to secure the arrest of the remaining defendants, who are not presently in the United States.

"These defendants, knowing full well that their business with U.S. customers and U.S. banks was illegal, tried to stack the deck," said Janice Fedarcyk, FBI assistant director-in-charge. "They lied to banks about the true nature of their business. Then, some of the defendants found banks willing to flout the law for a fee."
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The indictment shines a light on Internet gambling in the United States.

"The operation of their business is illegal, and in about half the states the player himself is violating state law," said Denver attorney Chuck Humphrey, who runs a Website dedicated to online gambling laws.

Alfonse D'Amato, chairman of the Poker Players Alliance, said he was "shocked" by the indictments, adding that his group "will continue to fight for Americans' right to participate in the game they enjoy."

"Online poker is not a crime and should not be treated as such," D'Amato, a former U.S. Senator, said in a statement.

Humphrey said Internet poker companies have argued in court that online poker is legal because it is a game of skill, as opposed to a game of chance.

But he pointed to recent cases involving online sports gambling, which resulted in jail time for some defendants, as an example of what might happen to those indicted Friday.

By charging the defendants with bank fraud, a criminal offense, Humphrey said prosecutors stand a better chance of extraditing them from countries where gambling is legal.

It was not immediately clear what will happen to any money that U.S. citizens had in accounts associated with the poker companies.

In 2007, federal prosecutors charged NETeller, an online payment company, with taking part in an online gambling conspiracy. That case resulted in a so-called deferred compensation agreement, in which the company agreed to return $94 million to U.S. customers. To top of page

[borell]

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