Rozdanka nl20

[mordivgor]

Witam.
Kilka rozdanek do analizy bo niestety po upswingu przyszły problematyczne rozdania.

1.

***** History for hand R5-36867043-407 *****
Start hand: Wed Mar 17 22:38:46 GMT+0100 2010
Table: Eindhoven [36867043] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.10/$0.20, Real money)
User: Mordivgor
Button: seat 1
Players in round: 10
Seat 2: Chaimyps ($21.23)
Seat 3: Gremm0946 ($24.79)
Seat 4: teppen.. ($20.90)
Seat 5: Mordivgor ($20)
Seat 6: Anubisz3 ($21.58)
Seat 7: epic313 ($3.93)
Seat 8: szCsaba79 ($21.13)
Seat 9: master1800 ($10)
Seat 10: elmocoso ($57.19)
Seat 1: overlordxXx ($30.87)
Chaimyps posts small blind ($0.10)
Gremm0946 posts big blind ($0.20)
master1800 posts big blind ($0.20)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to Mordivgor: [, ]
teppen.. folds
Mordivgor raises $1 to $1
Anubisz3 calls $1
epic313 folds
szCsaba79 folds
master1800 folds
elmocoso folds
overlordxXx folds
Chaimyps folds
Gremm0946 calls $0.80
--- Dealing flop [, , ]
Gremm0946 checks
Mordivgor bets $2
Anubisz3 calls $2
Gremm0946 folds
--- Dealing turn []
Mordivgor bets $3.50
Anubisz3 calls $3.50
--- Dealing river []
??
Mordivgor checks
Anubisz3 checks
---
Summary:
Main pot: $14.30 won by Mordivgor ($13.59)
Seat 2: Chaimyps ($21.13), net: -$0.10
Seat 3: Gremm0946 ($23.79), net: -$1
Seat 4: teppen.. ($20.90)
Seat 5: Mordivgor ($27.09), net: +$7.09, [As, Ah] (PAIR ACE)
Seat 6: Anubisz3 ($15.08), net: -$6.50
Seat 7: epic313 ($3.93)
Seat 8: szCsaba79 ($21.13)
Seat 9: master1800 ($9.80), net: -$0.20
Seat 10: elmocoso ($57.19)
Seat 1: overlordxXx ($30.87)
***** End of hand R5-36867043-407 *****

Co robimy na riverze?

Staty przeciwnika: 12/3/1.7 po 230h

2.

***** History for hand R5-36867043-415 *****
Start hand: Wed Mar 17 22:46:28 GMT+0100 2010
Table: Eindhoven [36867043] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.10/$0.20, Real money)
User: Mordivgor
Button: seat 9
Players in round: 9
Seat 10: elmocoso ($53.34)
Seat 2: Chaimyps ($21.13)
Seat 3: Gremm0946 ($25.04)
Seat 4: teppen.. ($20.60)
Seat 5: Mordivgor ($26.89)
Seat 6: Anubisz3 ($19.70)
Seat 7: epic313 ($3.53)
Seat 8: szCsaba79 ($21.58)
Seat 9: master1800 ($9.80)
elmocoso posts small blind ($0.10)
Chaimyps posts big blind ($0.20)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to Mordivgor: [, ]
Gremm0946 folds
teppen.. calls $0.20
Mordivgor calls $0.20
Anubisz3 folds
epic313 folds
szCsaba79 folds
master1800 folds
elmocoso folds
Chaimyps checks
--- Dealing flop [, , ]
Chaimyps checks
teppen.. bets $0.40
Mordivgor calls $0.40
Chaimyps folds
--- Dealing turn []
teppen.. bets $0.80
Mordivgor raises $2 to $2
teppen.. raises $2.40 to $3.20
Mordivgor raises $24.29 to $26.29 [all in]
teppen.. calls $16.80 [all in]
--- Dealing turn []
--- Dealing river []
---
Summary:
Main pot: $41.50 won by teppen.. ($40)
Seat 10: elmocoso ($53.24), net: -$0.10
Seat 2: Chaimyps ($20.93), net: -$0.20
Seat 3: Gremm0946 ($25.04)
Seat 4: teppen.. ($40), net: +$19.40, [, ] (FULL_HOUSE NINE, THREE)
Seat 5: Mordivgor ($6.29), net: -$20.60, [, ] (FLUSH ACE)
Seat 6: Anubisz3 ($19.70)
Seat 7: epic313 ($3.53)
Seat 8: szCsaba79 ($21.58)
Seat 9: master1800 ($9.80)
***** End of hand R5-36867043-415 *****

Staty: 26/3/2.25 po 86h

Po tym mini-raisie mi się strasznie jasne światełko w głowie zaświeciło no ale.. czy w większości wypadków nie będziemy z przodu?
Myślałem też o call a na riverze c/c. Lepsza linia?

3.

Start hand: Wed Mar 17 23:02:49 GMT+0100 2010
Table: Montgomery [36793965] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.10/$0.20, Real money)
User: Mordivgor
Button: seat 3
Players in round: 10
Seat 4: salimarmada ($19.85)
Seat 5: IvoB83 ($14.59)
Seat 6: alan3338 ($19.42)
Seat 7: izkikinde ($19.24)
Seat 8: master1800 ($7.01)
Seat 9: Mordivgor ($20)
Seat 10: nicodema ($19.83)
Seat 1: bcnabel ($20.71)
Seat 2: libra20 ($8.17)
Seat 3: ravecca ($29.34)
salimarmada posts small blind ($0.10)
IvoB83 posts big blind ($0.20)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to Mordivgor: [, ]
alan3338 calls $0.20
izkikinde calls $0.20
master1800 folds
Mordivgor raises $1.25 to $1.25
nicodema folds
bcnabel folds
libra20 calls $1.25
ravecca folds
salimarmada folds
IvoB83 raises $2.80 to $3
alan3338 folds
izkikinde folds
Mordivgor raises $18.75 to $20 [all in]
libra20 calls $6.92 [all in]
IvoB83 calls $11.59 [all in]
---
--- Dealing flop [, , ]
--- Dealing turn []
--- Dealing river []
---
Summary:
Main pot: $25.01 won by IvoB83 ($23.76)
Side pot 1: $12.84 won by IvoB83 ($12.59)
Seat 4: salimarmada ($19.75), net: -$0.10
Seat 5: IvoB83 ($36.35), net: +$21.76, [, ] (PAIR ACE)
Seat 6: alan3338 ($19.22), net: -$0.20
Seat 7: izkikinde ($19.04), net: -$0.20
Seat 8: master1800 ($7.01)
Seat 9: Mordivgor ($5.41), net: -$14.59, [, ] (PAIR KING)
Seat 10: nicodema ($19.83)
Seat 1: bcnabel ($20.71)
Seat 2: libra20 ($0), net: -$8.17, [, ] (PAIR FOUR)
Seat 3: ravecca ($29.34)
***** End of hand R5-36793965-965 *****

Staty IvoB83: 19/6/inf 3bet:0

Staty tylko po 25 handach.
Czy mimo tego pas czy zagranie dobre?

[Gratek]

1. Na takim boardzie gram mocniejszy cbet. Turn 1/2 tez raczej za slabo. Imo taki villain poczeka za Toba wiekszosc swojego zakresu, betujac w zasadzie tylko monstery, wiec indukowanie blefu od missed drawu nie ma sensu. Ja tu gram niski value bet, liczac ze dolozy z jakims Tx, JsXs, czasem z czyms w rodzaju 88, QQ-KK.

2. Fold pf. Nie lubie slowplayowac monsterow vs gałgany, wiec pewnie bym raisowal flop. Turn tez ciezko zrzucic, raczej cooler. Grajac pasywna linie tracimy za duzo value.

3. Zeby skaly sraly, nie zrzuce KK pf na goscia, na ktorego mam 25 rak. Taki maly sample nawet nie daje pogladu o jego rzeczywistem vp/pfr, a co dopiero o jego 3becie i zakresie z jakim sie stackuje pf.

[NsPike]

1) Zdecydowanie Value Bet na riverze dajemy i niestety fold do raisa ewentualnego. Vbet napewno jest oplacalny, ździwisz się jak czesto gośc Ci tu pokaże KK i QQ sprawdzi Cie tez z kazdym drawem nietrafionym z J typu JQ,AsJs,KsJs itd.

2)fold PF... Jak chcesz grac przeciwko niemu to go izoluj a nie robisz limp behind z wczesnej pozycji. Tak jak zagrane PF to ja napierdalam overraisa na flopie. A skoro juz call na flopie to dalej tak jak Ty i to jest raczej cooler. Co innego gdyby gośc byl bardzo pasywny... ale ten koles ma AF:2.2 więc pechowy turn i tyle.

3)nie patrz na staty 3bet bez duzej probki. Instant call.
dodatkowo gosc nie mial pelnego stacka i byla okazja z jego strony do tego zeby zagrac sqeeze.

[mordivgor]

Dzięki za odpowiedzi rzeczywiście może za często boję się tych setów albo odpuszczam na river gdzie tracę value.
Tutaj jeszcze jedno rozdanko..

***** History for hand R5-37097019-99 *****
Start hand: Thu Mar 18 13:31:46 GMT+0100 2010
Table: Atlanta [37097019] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.10/$0.20, Real money)
User: Mordivgor
Button: seat 7
Players in round: 10
Seat 8: pitu1978 ($5.32)
Seat 9: punya88 ($15.80)
Seat 10: perki10 ($54.94)
Seat 1: goblet9999 ($19.88)
Seat 2: epistimon1 ($12.70)
Seat 3: offtarget ($19.49)
Seat 4: grutier006 ($15.37)
Seat 5: Mordivgor ($22.05)
Seat 6: Flieger9 ($1.10)
Seat 7: dylanwolf07 ($26.97)
pitu1978 posts small blind ($0.10)
punya88 posts big blind ($0.20)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to Mordivgor: [, ]
perki10 folds
goblet9999 calls $0.20
epistimon1 calls $0.20
offtarget folds
grutier006 calls $0.20
Mordivgor raises $1.25 to $1.25
Flieger9 folds
dylanwolf07 folds
pitu1978 folds
punya88 folds
goblet9999 folds
epistimon1 calls $1.05
grutier006 calls $1.05
--- Dealing flop [, , ]
epistimon1 bets $0.50
grutier006 calls $0.50
Mordivgor raises $3.50 to $3.50
epistimon1 calls $3
grutier006 calls $3
--- Dealing turn []
epistimon1 bets $7.95 [all in]
grutier006 folds
Mordivgor calls $7.95
--- Dealing river []
---
Summary:
Main pot: $30.65 won by epistimon1 ($29.15)
Seat 8: pitu1978 ($5.22), net: -$0.10
Seat 9: punya88 ($15.60), net: -$0.20
Seat 10: perki10 ($54.94)
Seat 1: goblet9999 ($19.68), net: -$0.20
Seat 2: epistimon1 ($29.15), net: +$16.45, [, ] (TWO_PAIR ACE, FIVE)
Seat 3: offtarget ($19.49)
Seat 4: grutier006 ($10.62), net: -$4.75
Seat 5: Mordivgor ($9.35), net: -$12.70, [, ] (TWO_PAIR QUEEN, FIVE)
Seat 6: Flieger9 ($1.10)
Seat 7: dylanwolf07 ($26.97)
***** End of hand R5-37097019-99 *****

83/0/2 po 6(!) handach

Też callujecie?

[NsPike]

Statystyki po 6 rękach nic nam nie mówią.

Ja daje call ze świadomością ,że najczęściej jesteśmy z tyłu ale pot odds są kuszące.