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Pogrywam sobie ostatnio trochę DONów turbo na PS, no i mam wątpliwości związane z zakresem pushowania.
1. PokerStars Game #33687914085: Tournament #201255988, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/10/06 4:33:43 CET [2009/10/05 22:33:43 ET]
Table '201255988 1' 10-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 19865231 (1390 in chips)
Seat 3: aeniman (1390 in chips)
Seat 4: infinity824 (1465 in chips)
Seat 5: mershaq (1585 in chips)
Seat 6: lvnboy (4085 in chips)
Seat 7: skilfuldoc (3615 in chips)
Seat 8: demetan76 (865 in chips)
Seat 9: Big Lyon 22 (605 in chips)
19865231: posts the ante 10
aeniman: posts the ante 10
infinity824: posts the ante 10
mershaq: posts the ante 10
lvnboy: posts the ante 10
skilfuldoc: posts the ante 10
demetan76: posts the ante 10
Big Lyon 22: posts the ante 10
lvnboy: posts small blind 50
skilfuldoc: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aeniman [ ]
demetan76: folds
Big Lyon 22: folds
19865231: folds
aeniman: ??
Push czy bet 220-300 (na blindach bigstacki, mogą dołożyć do betu z bardzo szerokim zakresem)? Rozważacie tu w ogóle fold?
2. PokerStars Game #33687950926: Tournament #201256347, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/10/06 4:35:05 CET [2009/10/05 22:35:05 ET]
Table '201256347 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: luchocafay (2665 in chips)
Seat 3: 19865231 (1355 in chips)
Seat 4: aeniman (1455 in chips)
Seat 5: jimmijames28 (1435 in chips)
Seat 6: nighthawk227 (1655 in chips)
Seat 8: gilbo340 (1240 in chips)
Seat 9: kuklatank (1425 in chips)
Seat 10: dlorgere (3770 in chips)
luchocafay: posts the ante 10
19865231: posts the ante 10
aeniman: posts the ante 10
jimmijames28: posts the ante 10
nighthawk227: posts the ante 10
gilbo340: posts the ante 10
kuklatank: posts the ante 10
dlorgere: posts the ante 10
19865231: posts small blind 50
aeniman: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aeniman [ ]
jimmijames28: calls 100
gilbo340 is disconnected
nighthawk227: folds
gilbo340 is connected
gilbo340: folds
kuklatank: folds
dlorgere: calls 100
luchocafay: folds
19865231: folds
aeniman: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
aeniman: bets 280
jimmijames28: folds
dlorgere: raises 280 to 560
aeniman: ??
Wsadzać tu stacka? Każdy set, strit mnie bije, a są one w zasięgu villaina.
3. PokerStars Game #33688607784: Tournament #201256115, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/10/06 5:01:08 CET [2009/10/05 23:01:08 ET]
Table '201256115 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Buzzong (2482 in chips)
Seat 3: 19865231 (2593 in chips)
Seat 4: LnKfarms (1648 in chips)
Seat 7: DarnedCat (1808 in chips)
Seat 8: cdilov (4148 in chips)
Seat 9: kuklatank (625 in chips)
Seat 10: aeniman (1696 in chips)
Buzzong: posts the ante 40
19865231: posts the ante 40
LnKfarms: posts the ante 40
DarnedCat: posts the ante 40
cdilov: posts the ante 40
kuklatank: posts the ante 40
aeniman: posts the ante 40
aeniman: posts small blind 200
Buzzong: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aeniman [ ]
19865231: folds
LnKfarms: folds
DarnedCat: folds
cdilov: folds
kuklatank: folds
aeniman: ??
Izi push? Przeciwnik póki co nie okazywał oznak zdebilenia.
4. PokerStars Game #33688574971: Tournament #201256069, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/10/06 4:59:45 CET [2009/10/05 22:59:45 ET]
Table '201256069 1' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: kuklatank (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: Polleeee (1015 in chips)
Seat 5: aeniman (990 in chips)
Seat 6: pacopas (4705 in chips)
Seat 7: lessie57 (3705 in chips)
Seat 8: 19865231 (655 in chips)
Seat 9: blaker999 (760 in chips)
Seat 10: infinity824 (1680 in chips)
kuklatank: posts the ante 40
Polleeee: posts the ante 40
aeniman: posts the ante 40
pacopas: posts the ante 40
lessie57: posts the ante 40
19865231: posts the ante 40
blaker999: posts the ante 40
infinity824: posts the ante 40
lessie57: posts small blind 200
19865231: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aeniman [ ]
blaker999: folds
infinity824: folds
kuklatank: folds
Polleeee: folds
aeniman: ??
Izi push? FE mam bardzo małe. 19865231 to multitablujący debil, sprawdzał mnie wcześniej już luźno na medstacku, więc teraz też prawie na pewno wrzuci, do tego może dorzucić się któryś z bigstacków.
5. PokerStars Game #33624871805: Tournament #200835953, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/10/04 17:38:43 CET [2009/10/04 11:38:43 ET]
Table '200835953 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: pprzemoo (1520 in chips)
Seat 3: aeniman (1515 in chips)
Seat 4: Zocksau (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: Gascoigne888 (1515 in chips)
Seat 6: Ziroto (1630 in chips)
Seat 7: Sweat (1270 in chips)
Seat 8: kidpoker9230 (1405 in chips)
Seat 9: Triball777 (4665 in chips)
pprzemoo: posts the ante 5
aeniman: posts the ante 5
Zocksau: posts the ante 5
Gascoigne888: posts the ante 5
Ziroto: posts the ante 5
Sweat: posts the ante 5
kidpoker9230: posts the ante 5
Triball777: posts the ante 5
pprzemoo: posts small blind 25
aeniman: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aeniman [ ]
Zocksau: folds
Gascoigne888: folds
Ziroto: folds
Sweat: raises 100 to 150
kidpoker9230: folds
Triball777: folds
pprzemoo: folds
aeniman: ??
Push? Call (set mining nie będzie tu poprawny)? Reraise (duży mnie commituje, z małym często zostanę sprawdzony, nie trafię flopa i będzie problem). Fold i czekać na lepszą okazję?
6. PokerStars Game #33625531710: Tournament #200835940, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2009/10/04 17:59:08 CET [2009/10/04 11:59:08 ET]
Table '200835940 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: aeniman (1275 in chips)
Seat 2: sergeys64 (2850 in chips)
Seat 3: oDDDAVIDDDo (2835 in chips)
Seat 4: LordBoogie (1760 in chips)
Seat 6: Gascoigne888 (3280 in chips)
Seat 7: lümmel17 (2050 in chips)
Seat 9: ApxuB (950 in chips)
aeniman: posts the ante 25
sergeys64: posts the ante 25
oDDDAVIDDDo: posts the ante 25
LordBoogie: posts the ante 25
Gascoigne888: posts the ante 25
lümmel17: posts the ante 25
ApxuB: posts the ante 25
oDDDAVIDDDo: posts small blind 125
LordBoogie: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aeniman [ ]
Gascoigne888: folds
lümmel17: calls 250
ApxuB: folds
aeniman: ??
Izi push? Czy takie ręce open-pushować, a po limpie mimo wszystko odpuszczać?
7. Chyba najciekawsza ręka:
PokerStars Game #33619667423: Tournament #200798170, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/10/04 14:39:43 CET [2009/10/04 8:39:43 ET]
Table '200798170 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Sabemo (970 in chips)
Seat 2: ganster83 (2650 in chips)
Seat 3: riverISmy (1410 in chips)
Seat 4: aeniman (1655 in chips)
Seat 5: fabian130 (1300 in chips)
Seat 6: empty204 (825 in chips)
Seat 7: diaz1382 (1545 in chips)
Seat 8: germanchu12 (1865 in chips)
Seat 9: Therukodi (1335 in chips)
Seat 10: BMWrv (1445 in chips)
Sabemo: posts the ante 5
ganster83: posts the ante 5
riverISmy: posts the ante 5
aeniman: posts the ante 5
fabian130: posts the ante 5
empty204: posts the ante 5
diaz1382: posts the ante 5
germanchu12: posts the ante 5
Therukodi: posts the ante 5
BMWrv: posts the ante 5
riverISmy: posts small blind 25
aeniman: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aeniman [ ]
fabian130: folds
empty204: calls 50
diaz1382: folds
germanchu12: calls 50
Therukodi: folds
Therukodi is sitting out
BMWrv: calls 50
Sabemo: folds
ganster83: calls 50
riverISmy: calls 25
aeniman: ??
Raise? Push?? Call chyba nie wchodzi w grę, co?
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1. snap fold
2. co bys nie zrobil bedzie zle
3. no brainer push
4. no brainer push
5. player dependant
6. ja tu pushuje, ale tez zalezy od gracza. ogolnie limperzy to twoi przeyjaciele.
7. kto co lubi, ja daje call, szkoda marnowac 1/5 stacka na missed flop. Ewentualnie push, nigdy raise
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1. fold
2. Te T8o można pushnąć pre po limpie chyba że grasz z kompletnym debilem który uwielbia grać moje ulubione zagranie czyli limp/call pusha z kartami typu ATo.
3-7 push
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Dzięki za odpowiedzi.
anoxic, @2 push PF to imo duża przesada - FE przy pushu jakieś pewnie zwykle mam, ale:
- nie mogę wykluczyć, że jednak gram z tym właśnie kompletnym debilem, poza tym
- push w DONie za tyle z taką ręką wydaje mi się zdecydowanie zbyt loose.
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dla mnie 1 fold, 2-4 oraz 7 push, 5-6 player dependent push/fold
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Thx. Z jedynką to faktycznie zbyt luźno tu wchodziłem, to na pewno poprawię. Co do pozostałych, widzę, że mój punkt widzenia generalnie pokrywa się z Waszymi.
Jeszcze może ktoś się wypowie?