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[Cogito]

A powiedz co mi daje przebicie na flopie? Rozegranie mega std...

[shinji]

Taktyką kuli śniegowej ;]

[Cain]

Rozdania z jednego dnia na PS! Niech mi ktoś powie, że to jest normalne...

PokerStars Game #52617666162: Tournament #331054757, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/11/13 10:19:00 CET [2010/11/13 4:19:00 ET]
Table '331054757 1' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tissdawg41 (1160 in chips)
Seat 2: padibenis (1335 in chips)
Seat 3: plantlife78 (2115 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero (1390 in chips)
Seat 5: TheRealOreo (875 in chips)
Seat 6: floatmaster7 (2125 in chips)
plantlife78: posts small blind 50
hero: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
TheRealOreo: raises 300 to 400
floatmaster7: folds
tissdawg41: folds
padibenis: folds
plantlife78: folds
Hero: raises 990 to 1390 and is all-in
TheRealOreo: calls 475 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (515) returned to Hero
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows (two pair, Nines and Eights)
TheRealOreo: shows (a straight, Four to Eight)
TheRealOreo collected 1800 from pot


PokerStars Game #52617530447: Tournament #331054695, $3.00+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/11/13 10:12:35 CET [2010/11/13 4:12:35 ET]
Table '331054695 1' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (2217 in chips)
Seat 2: floatmaster7 (3250 in chips)
Seat 3: reole22 (1305 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: ace379 (2228 in chips)
ace379: posts small blind 15
Hero: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
floatmaster7: raises 60 to 90
reole22: folds
ace379: folds
reole22 is connected
reole22 has returned
Hero: calls 60
*** FLOP ***
Hero: checks
floatmaster7: bets 120
Hero: raises 312 to 432
floatmaster7: calls 312
*** TURN ***
Hero: bets 1695 and is all-in
floatmaster7: calls 1695
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows (two pair, Aces and Fives)
floatmaster7: shows (two pair, Aces and Tens)
floatmaster7 collected 4449 from pot
Hero finished the tournament in 4th place


Tego nie powinienem wklejać, ale znów river...

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PokerStars Game #52616999538: Tournament #331047083, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2010/11/13 9:44:48 CET [2010/11/13 3:44:48 ET]
Table '331047083 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: yorchca (11214 in chips)
Seat 3: SilverScorp (5246 in chips)
Seat 4: adreas85 (5427 in chips)
Seat 7: martrock (2481 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (2632 in chips)
yorchca: posts the ante 50
SilverScorp: posts the ante 50
adreas85: posts the ante 50
martrock: posts the ante 50
Hero: posts the ante 50
Hero: posts small blind 300
yorchca: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
SilverScorp: folds
adreas85: folds
martrock: raises 1831 to 2431 and is all-in
Hero: raises 151 to 2582 and is all-in
yorchca: folds
Uncalled bet (151) returned to Hero
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero : shows (a pair of Deuces)
martrock: shows (a straight, Nine to King)
martrock collected 5712 from pot


ten sam turniej (wyszedlem jeszcze z tych 151 chipsów), ten sam donk, ten sam wynik:

*********** # 45 **************
PokerStars Game #52617035045: Tournament #331047083, $1.50+$0.25 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2010/11/13 9:46:38 CET [2010/11/13 3:46:38 ET]
Table '331047083 2' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: yorchca (11361 in chips)
Seat 3: SilverScorp (4196 in chips)
Seat 4: adreas85 (4673 in chips)
Seat 7: martrock (5012 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (1758 in chips)
yorchca: posts the ante 50
SilverScorp: posts the ante 50
adreas85: posts the ante 50
martrock: posts the ante 50
Hero: posts the ante 50
adreas85: posts small blind 300
martrock: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
Hero: raises 1108 to 1708 and is all-in
yorchca: folds
SilverScorp: folds
adreas85: folds
martrock: calls 1108
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
martrock: shows (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
Hero: shows (a pair of Jacks)
martrock collected 3966 from pot
Hero finished the tournament in 5th place


*********** # 77 **************
PokerStars Game #52616824954: Tournament #331042557, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/11/13 9:35:54 CET [2010/11/13 3:35:54 ET]
Table '331042557 7' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (1862 in chips)
Seat 3: skakas12 (1137 in chips)
Seat 4: BSUBRONCO386 (1540 in chips)
Seat 5: bth247 (1573 in chips)
Seat 6: jojka001 (1710 in chips)
Seat 7: ryk@r2 (1445 in chips)
Seat 8: NICHOLAS7643 (4313 in chips)
Seat 9: shaibun (1420 in chips)
skakas12: posts small blind 15
BSUBRONCO386: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
bth247: calls 30
jojka001: calls 30
ryk@r2: calls 30
NICHOLAS7643: folds
shaibun: folds
Hero: raises 1832 to 1862 and is all-in
koukis83 is connected
skakas12: calls 1122 and is all-in
BSUBRONCO386: folds
bth247: calls 1543 and is all-in
jojka001: calls 1680 and is all-in
ryk@r2: folds
Uncalled bet (152) returned to Hero
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jojka001: shows (a straight, Deuce to Six)
Hero: shows (a pair of Aces)
jojka001 collected 274 from side pot-2
bth247: shows (high card King)
jojka001 collected 1308 from side pot-1
skakas12: shows (a pair of Nines)
jojka001 collected 4608 from main pot
bth247 re-buys and receives 3000 chips for $6.00
skakas12 finished the tournament in 169th place


Na koniec perełka - 2 outy na flopie, 1 out na river... Na PS to widocznie wystarcza...

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PokerStars Game #52592298318: Tournament #330868016, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2010/11/12 22:01:27 CET [2010/11/12 16:01:27 ET]
Table '330868016 7' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (20975 in chips)
Seat 2: titiro999 (22056 in chips)
Seat 3: kuwak (19424 in chips)
Seat 4: tomasso81 (4798 in chips)
Seat 5: JamesBond019 (29040 in chips)
Seat 6: Daentii (3120 in chips)
Seat 7: vargas00729 (10343 in chips)
Seat 8: RusFlush (8675 in chips)
Seat 9: vachy11 (6005 in chips)
Hero: posts the ante 200
titiro999: posts the ante 200
kuwak: posts the ante 200
tomasso81: posts the ante 200
JamesBond019: posts the ante 200
Daentii: posts the ante 200
vargas00729: posts the ante 200
RusFlush: posts the ante 200
vachy11: posts the ante 200
vargas00729: posts small blind 1000
RusFlush: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero
vachy11: folds
Hero: raises 18775 to 20775 and is all-in
titiro999: folds
kuwak: folds
tomasso81: folds
JamesBond019: folds
Daentii: folds
vargas00729: folds
RusFlush: calls 6475 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (12300) returned to Hero
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RusFlush: shows (three of a kind, Fours)
Hero: shows (a pair of Jacks)
RusFlush collected 19750 from pot

Na innych pokerroomach zbierałbym takie ręce pewnie miesiąc

I HATE THEM SO MUCH!!!

Cain

p.s. Tak. Jestem tilted...

[sandman83]

Ja ci powiem, ze to jest normalne. I dodam jeszcze , ze zadnego z przytoczonych rozdan nie mozesz nazwac badbeatem - dla mnie to sytuacja gdzie przeciwnik ma tylko kilka procent na lepszy uklad przy showdown, a w twoich rozdaniach w zadnym nie miales znaczacej przewagi w momencie wrzucenia stacka.

[Cain]

To chyba czytamy inne książki sandman, jesli twierdzisz ze "zadnego z przytoczonych rozdan nie mozesz nazwac badbeatem"....

[giza]

Ja ci powiem, ze to jest normalne. I dodam jeszcze , ze zadnego z przytoczonych rozdan nie mozesz nazwac badbeatem - dla mnie to sytuacja gdzie przeciwnik ma tylko kilka procent na lepszy uklad przy showdown, a w twoich rozdaniach w zadnym nie miales znaczacej przewagi w momencie wrzucenia stacka.

Co ty pierdolisz??

[sandman83]

dobra przyjrzyjmy sie temu, gdzie tam jest ogromny badbeat?

- 1) rozdanie : 99 vs A5s pre all in = 66% vs 34 %
- 2) rozdanie: A5o vs ATo all in na turn = 8 % vs 92 %, pomijam fakt kiepskiego wedlug mnie rozegrania , ale tutaj to jedynie moglby byc badbeat dla przeciwnika
- 3) rozdanie : A7o vs QTo pre all in = 55 vs 45 % typowy cooler
- 4) rozdanie : ATo vs 73s = 62 vs 38 %
- 5 rozdanie : AA vs 53s vs KQo vs T9s = 50 % vs 17 % vs 10 % vs 23 %
- 6) rozdanie JJ vs 44 pre all in = 80% vs 20 % parka na parke norma

i uswiadomcie mnie gdzie wy tutaj widzicie badbeaty? no chyba, ze dla kogos przegranie coolera to tez jest ogromny badbeat.

[Cain]

Nie chce mi sie z Toba podejmowac polemiki na temat czym dla Ciebie jest badbeat a czym nie jest (choc imho przegrac 80|20 to badbeat. Przegrac AA z donkiem, ktory robi call to all in z any two to badbeat. Jasne mozesz powiedziec ze AA mozna rozegrac inaczej, ale na tym stole dzialo sie juz tyle dziwnego, ze rozgrywanie AA mogloby skonczyc sie 6-way pot'em... nevermind).

Nie wrzucilem "takej jednej reki" jak Cogito (pewnie bym sie poplakal po takim rozdaniu ).

Mnie nawet nie o bad beaty chodzi (w poscie nie ma o tym ani slowa, tym bardziej w polaczeniu ze slowem "ogromny"). Chodzi mi o jebane rivery na PS.
Dlaczego PS doprowadza mnie do takiego stanu, ze nawet gdy jestem z przodu 80% do 20% pre, widze bezpiecznego flopa i bezpiecznego turna i mowie do siebie "tylko 1 out... tylko 1 out... tylko 1 out". I panicznie boje sie tego jebanego rivera...

A river... potwierdza obawy i zabija... I tak co kilka godzin...

Cain.

[sandman83]

widzisz mi sie wydaje ze twoj problem tkwi w twoim mindsecie, jestes za bardzo "results oriented" i zamiast starac sie podejmowac dobre decyzje skupiasz sie na wyniku rozdania. ja tez to przerabialem, przeklinalem swojego wiecznego pecha, szczescie przeciwnikow i rigged softy. ale teraz po jakims czasie przejmuje sie tym coraz mniej, staram sie coraz mniej tiltowac bo to tylko szkodzi w longrunie. dodatkowo cieszy mnie kazde wrzucenie stacka (gram cash) w dowolnym momencie rozdania jezeli mam % przewage, nawet jezeli dane rozdanie przegrywam.
co ciekawe polecam pograc live w pokera ze znajomymi niekoniecznie na pieniadze, a dopiero zobaczysz runnner runner flushe, strity i inne badbeaty

[PeriMCS]

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($50.25)
BB ($108)
CO ($139)
Hero ($54)

Dealt to Hero

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.25, fold

FLOP ($3.50)

SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

TURN ($7.50)

SB bets $2.50, Hero raises to $11, SB calls $8.50

RIVER ($29.50)

SB checks, Hero checks

SB shows
(Pre 41%, Flop 24.4%, Turn 90.9%)

Hero shows
(Pre 59%, Flop 75.6%, Turn 9.1%)

SB wins $28.05

Nie wiem, czy dobry bluff, czy nie. Ale kurwa jebany fish musi trafić zawsze.

Pierdolony szmaciarz 38/16
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($138)
BB ($41.75)
UTG ($85.10)
CO ($74.46)
BTN ($8.50)

Dealt to Hero

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $3.75, Hero raises to $12.50, BB calls $8.75

FLOP ($25)

Hero bets $12.50, BB calls $12.50

TURN ($50)

Hero checks, BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

RIVER ($55)

Hero checks, BB bets $14.25 (AI), Hero folds

BB wins $52.25

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
BB ($216)
($54.80)
UTG ($50.58)
UTG+1 ($60.02)
Hero ($47)

BB posts (SB) $0.25

Dealt to Hero

fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, fold, fold

FLOP ($4.25)

UTG+1 bets $3.18, Hero raises to $12.36, UTG+1 raises to $58.27 (AI), Hero calls $32.89 (AI)

TURN ($94.75)

RIVER ($94.75)

UTG+1 shows
(Pre 48%, Flop 32.5%, Turn 25.0%)

Hero shows
(Pre 52%, Flop 67.5%, Turn 75.0%)

UTG+1 wins $91.75

Siły już brak :/

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($75.65)
BB ($50)
UTG ($83.95)
UTG+1 ($50)
CO ($43.40)
Hero ($50)

Dealt to Hero

fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.25, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, fold, BB raises to $12, fold, Hero raises to $50 (AI), BB calls $38 (AI)

FLOP ($101)

TURN ($101)

RIVER ($101)

Hero shows
(Pre 31%, Flop 28.1%, Turn 15.9%)

BB shows
(Pre 69%, Flop 71.9%, Turn 84.1%)

BB wins $98.50

Fish 37/11. Stars pomoże.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($50)
BB ($83.45)
UTG ($67.10)
UTG+1 ($31.80)
Hero ($55.05)
BTN ($37.95)

Dealt to Hero

UTG raises to $2, fold, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $6, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($14.75)

Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

TURN ($30.75)

Hero bets $20, BTN raises to $23.95 (AI), Hero calls $3.95

RIVER ($78.65)

Hero shows
(Pre 82%, Flop 90.0%, Turn 4.5%)

BTN shows
(Pre 18%, Flop 10.0%, Turn 95.5%)

BTN wins $75.65

Wszystko z jednej sesji 1400 rąk. Jak tu wyjść na plus? Klątwa jakaś czy jaki chuj?