sorry, to zbyt oczywiste, a poza tym po prostu mi sie juz nie chce...albo inaczej, przyznaje Wam rację, myliłem sie, myliłem...
pozdrawiam
sorry, to zbyt oczywiste, a poza tym po prostu mi sie juz nie chce...albo inaczej, przyznaje Wam rację, myliłem sie, myliłem...
pozdrawiam
gad demyd nie ma to jak sobie na dobranoc poprawic humor zajebisty temat (sam ot)
pozdro
I lol'd
zajebisty watek
to wkleje cos od siebie:
GAME #1266514563: Texas Hold'em NL $5/$10 2008-11-12 22:29:08
Table Silkeborg (No DP)
Seat 1: HERO ($1,015.00 in chips)
Seat 3: Pkr4Aces ($1,138.75 in chips)
Seat 6: TolleWurst ($2,436.25 in chips)
Seat 8: IampinbaLL ($970.00 in chips)
Seat 10: CdaPlop ($152.25 in chips) DEALER
HERO: Post SB $5.00
Pkr4Aces: Post BB $10.00
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO
TolleWurst: Fold
IampinbaLL: Fold
CdaPlop: Fold
HERO: Raise (NF) $30.00
Pkr4Aces: Call $20.00
*** FLOP ***
HERO: Bet $40.00
Pkr4Aces: Raise (NF) $90.00
HERO: Call $50.00
*** TURN ***
HERO: Check
Pkr4Aces: Bet $195.00
HERO: Call $195.00
*** RIVER ***
HERO: Check
Pkr4Aces: Bet $315.00
HERO: Call $315.00
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,257.00 Rake $3.00
Pkr4Aces: Shows
HERO: wins $1,257.00
i po raz kolejny nie chce mi sie pisac o rozdaniu wiec tylko zacytuje to co jest poprawne ^^^^^^^^^
i zgadzam sie co do rozegrania i co do zaprzeczenia teorii ze im wyzsze stawki tym gosc bedize miał lepsza reke- jest wlasnie na odwrót- im wyzej tym bedzie bardziej lightowo nas 4betowac
co za fishowate rozdanie
tt fold preflop, przeciez mogl miec aa i wyriverowac karete
złapał kolesia na jednym bluffie, no tak to udowandnia waszą teorię.
Ostatnio edytowane przez sebasbox ; 18-11-2008 o 13:38
Ktoś powoływał sie na Erica "Rizena" Lyncha, więc napisałem do niego by przeanalizował obydwa przytoczone w tym wątku rozdania.
Poniżej odpowiedz jaką otrzymałem (przeklejony mail). Niestety z niewiadomych przyczyn w drugim przykładzie nie wklejają sie zdjecia rozdanych kart, ale przykłady podane są wcześniej więc każdy moze sobie sprawdzić.
Well, reads are very important in both of these cases (are the opponents aggressive? passive?)
In hand #1 I think as played it's pretty standard. blind vs blind in a 6 max game you're pretty much not folding QQ or AK pre-flop. You could argue for flatting the 4 bet then getting it in on most flops, but honestly I'm pretty happy to get it in with QQ there every time.
In hand #2 against typical opponents I would flat call the big blind re-raise then look to check/raise all in on a lot of flops. I don't really like 4 betting most opponents here because they fold hands like A9/88 correctly, although some opponents will fold TT and KQ here, which argues for re-raising. Nonetheless, I think we skew our opponent's range to hands that dominate us when we 4 bet. But, if our opponent is a hyper aggressive player who I'm happy to get it all in with pre-flop, I would make the 4 bet (and have in the past against such opponents).
I really think both plays are fine. #1 is pretty standard IMO while #2 is very opponent dependant.
Thanks
-Eric
2008/11/18 Szewczyk, Sebastian (GE Money) <sebastian.szewczyk@ge.com>
Hi,
my name is Sebastian. I came from Poland. On our poker forum there is very hot discussion about two hands shown bleow. I would be very grateful if you could analyse both of them and tell us which moves were good and which were not. I know you are probably very busy but it is very important to us.
Our heroes are:
in first case loopfer
in second igiel
1)
Hand nr 21998569572: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 13/11/2008 5:37:45 ET
Stół 'Hanna' 6-max Seat nr 3 is dealer
seat 1: pennpal ($443.05)
seat 2: bouh ($213.75)
seat 3: ronaldo500 ($201.25)
seat 4: kg2303 ($216.25)
seat 6: loopfer ($211.45)
kg2303: sb $1
loopfer: bb $2
*** KARTY WŁASNE ***
loopfer hand [Qc Qh]
pennpal: pass
bouh: pass
ronaldo500: pass
kg2303: rise $4 to $6
loopfer: rise $14 to $20
kg2303: rise $68 to $88
loopfer: rise $123.45 to $211.45 and goes all-in
kg2303: call $123.45
*** FLOP *** [3d Ac 8d]
*** TURN *** [3d Ac 8d] [As]
*** RIVER *** [3d Ac 8d As] [2s]
*** showdown ***
kg2303: shows [Ah Kh] (trójkę, Asy)
loopfer: pass
kg2303 won $420.90 from the pot
2)
Game # 969112783 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 1/2 - Table "Norwich"
Players(max 6):
bibovbibov (EUR 653.70 in seat 1)
igiel (EUR 331.75 in seat 3)
McFLACT (EUR 229.30 in seat 4)
Dealer: bibovbibov
Small Blind: igiel (1.00)
Big Blind: McFLACT (2.00)
igiel was dealt: -
bibovbibov Fold
igiel Raise (6.00)
McFLACT Raise (18.00)
igiel Raise (55.00)
McFLACT All-In (209.30)
igiel Call (167.30)
Flop - -
Turn - - -
River - - - -
igiel shows: - (two pairs, aces and nines)
McFLACT shows: - (a full house, aces full of fours)
McFLACT wins: EUR 456.60 (with a full house, aces full of fours)
Rake: EUR 2.00
Game ended 2008-11-17 03:21:53 GMT+01:00
If you need any additional information please do not hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Sebastian
Ostatnio edytowane przez sebasbox ; 20-11-2008 o 07:47
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